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#12963 - 11/10/08 11:12 PM Common mistakes with tile installs
pistolpete Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 438
Loc: Williams Lake B.C.
There are hundreds of ways to screw up a tile job, but here are a few of the most common ones. Unfortunately many contractors consider these standard and acceptable practices:

1) Mastic used on floors, in wet areas, on stone, or with large porcelain tiles. Mastic has its place: ceramic back splashes.

2) Metal or plastic mesh with a thin coat of mortar used on floors. This does absolutely nothing to stiffen the floor and often ends in popped tiles in short order. Not to be confused with a mortar bed which is much thicker.

3) Subfloor not beefed up. 5/8 or 3/4 inch plywood alone is not enough. At least one extra layer is needed. This can be plywood, Cement board, or a mortar bed.

4) Shower walls not water proofed. Happens all too often. Green board or plywood are just not good enough. Even cement board is not water proof, only water resistant. There are many ways to waterproof, Schluter Kerdi, and Den's shield with Redgard are my personal favorites.

5) Shower pans not pre-sloped. Enough said.

6) Exterior tile poorly set. Exterior installs are tricky and fail within a few years more often than not. This is due to water freezing under the tiles. Schluter Ditra, or a good pre-slope along with tile contacting mortar 100% are a must.

I'm sure there are a few people itching to add to the list so I'll leave some room:)

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#12964 - 11/11/08 07:08 AM Re: Common mistakes with tile installs [Re: pistolpete]
RC Offline
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Registered: 10/21/03
Posts: 1796
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Just going to make one correction for point 3
Cement board has no strength and should not be considered for beefing up a subfloor.

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#12968 - 11/11/08 09:23 PM Re: Common mistakes with tile installs [Re: RC]
pistolpete Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 438
Loc: Williams Lake B.C.
You're right on that one I guess. I've never used it myself, just seen it recommended.

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#13304 - 12/11/08 08:43 PM Re: Common mistakes with tile installs [Re: pistolpete]
Bri Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
Posts: 2195
Loc: ontario, canada
This is how the confusion starts though....I mean, Ditra doesnt beef up the floor either, but is recommended for single layer ply or chip board. It is always up to the installer to decide if the floor is up to snuff. The problem is, they sell the products to DIY'ers..and they read, suitable over bla bla bla...and think, ok..I read the instructions...we're good to go.
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#13313 - 12/12/08 08:02 PM Re: Common mistakes with tile installs [Re: Bri]
McHugh Offline
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Registered: 12/10/08
Posts: 8
Loc: Fort Collins, CO.
I would say that tile installation mistake #1 would have to be an installation with a lack of technical knowledge or respect for the trade.

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#13987 - 04/16/09 02:31 PM Re: Common mistakes with tile installs [Re: McHugh]
Loah Offline
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Registered: 04/16/09
Posts: 4
A common mistake I've witnessed several times is lack of proper floor prep. A floor contaminated with dust build up, paint, plaster etc. These types of contaminants greatly effect the longevity/quality of any install. Also, when did glue and nails become a proper replacement for screws?

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