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#16235 - 10/12/10 11:11 PM Re: Is this tile OK? [Re: Kbling-guy]
Jaz Offline
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Registered: 03/11/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Troy, Michigan U.S.A.
Guy,

I've done a few installations away from Troy, I think I did one in Okemos years ago when no one knew what Kerdi was, even out of state. All it takes is a motel and a per diem and there I am.

Thin set mortars are a blend of Portland Cement, silica sand, other minerals, fillers and water retentive chemicals to allow for slow curing and so it doesn't set up too fast. Basic thin set, aka Dry-Set, can be "modified" with polymer/latex additives to improve performance and allow to bond to other substrates. Flexbond is a good modified mortar.

Your suspicions about the trowel is correct. 2x2 mosaics can be a hemorrhoid, that is why labor is more as compare to regular wall tiles. Takes more time to install and grout. You need a 1/8" square or maybe a 3/16" V or square trowel.

You also have to take certain precautions when setting over Hardi. Hardi sucks.....the water out of the mortar. You need to sponge or mist just before you spread or it'll set up too fast, and the tiles might end up in the tub by am.

Jaz
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#16236 - 10/13/10 12:15 AM Re: Is this tile OK? [Re: Jaz]
pistolpete Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 438
Loc: Williams Lake B.C.
I was going to hive you the exact same advice, but Jaz beat me to it smile I use a 1/4 inch notch to set mosaics, but mine is worn down and it's really more like 3/16. You can also tilt the trowel more to get a thinner layer. Mix your thinset to a mayonaise consistency.

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#16259 - 10/23/10 08:56 AM Re: Is this tile OK? [Re: Kbling-guy]
Kbling-guy Offline
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Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 6
Loc: Lansing, MI
I’m hoping for a quick response!

The tile is installed. It took me three days to put in the trim, tile above the batten board and tile the remaining area. We're really happy with the way it looks.

The plan was - today I grout with the Bostik Tru-Color urethane grout that I special ordered months ago. EXPENSIVE!, but I was convinced this was the way to go. However, before starting, I read the instructions and looked over the coverage chart again - and discovered that I inadvertently ordered the wrong size bucket. I don't have enough!

We have been without a tub too long and I really need to grout TODAY! So, I have two choices.
1) Use the same sanded grout that was used on the floor [there is plenty left] or
2) Go and get unsanded grout, hopefully matching the grout that was used on the floor.

So, my question is this. It seems I can go either way (sanded or unsanded) on this 1/8” joint. Assuming I can get unsanded grout of the same color, should I?

More accurately, is there good reason to or not to use sanded or unsanded grout in this environment? Or, what are the pros and cons of each?
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#16260 - 10/23/10 09:37 AM Re: Is this tile OK? [Re: Kbling-guy]
RC Offline
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Registered: 10/21/03
Posts: 1797
Loc: Ontario, Canada
If your joints are actually 1/8" or less then unsanded will work.
The only reason for sanded would be if the grout joint is larger than 1/8"

Your right on the border line of using either one, so the choice is yours.

If you do use unsanded, just keep an eye out for pinholing. Some unsanded grouts are really prone to it.
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#16261 - 10/23/10 11:46 AM Re: Is this tile OK? [Re: RC]
Jaz Offline
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Registered: 03/11/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Troy, Michigan U.S.A.
I highly recommend using sanded grout even if the joints are a bit smaller than 1/8". It'll give you a nicer, fuller joint. Some sanded grout are recommended with joint of 1/16 - 5/8".

Jaz
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KERDI Shower Specialist-DITRA Installs-Containers of TRAVERTINE direct, ship anywhere. SAVE 40-70%
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